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26 December 2010

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Sarah AB

A belated response - I wasn't going to read this but wanted to read something on Kindle (because I got one as a present) and discovered I could buy TFQ for under £4.00.

I had a similar response to you I think. There was some quite funny satire on the ASHamed Jews, and I did find other parts thoughtful and moving too, though I think I would have preferred the novel if it had been funnier throughout - more like an earlyish David Lodge novel.

This was my first HJ novel but I do read his articles, and I have similarly mixed responses to both. I find his depiction of women and his attitude towards new universities and newer disciplines rather irritating - I'm most in sympathy with him on Israel/antisemitism, though I don't always agree with him 100%.

But even the satire on anti-Zionism began to get slightly irritating because I was so aware of the way he was using characters, and their shifting perspectives, to articulate certain familiar positions. Perhaps that aspect works better for people who haven't followed discussions of academic boycotts etc.

There seemed something rather muffled about the novel - I didn't get a sharp sense of characters, settings or even events - I wished the story had been told in a more straightforward way - rather than going back and forth, narrating many events as memories inside someone's head.

Rosie

More discussion of it over here:-

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=12803252&postID=6923891566943235226

Thumbs down generally especially the non-existent characters.

How are you getting on with the Kindle? I'm in temporary accommodation since my flat is uninhabitable so away from my books. I can see how a portable library would be handy at such times.

Sarah AB

I've only read TFQ so far on Kindle - but it seems absolutely fine, only problem really is that it's still quite expensive to buy Kindle format books, particularly as you can't sell them or give them away. I do quite like being surrounded by books, but they are beginning to pile up a bit. I think my husband thought it would be nice if I didn't have to take a box of books with me every time we go on holiday - but then I might drop the Kindle and be left with nothing to read! I hope you are reunited with your own books soon.

Rosie

My fear would be leaving the Kindle in a hotel room. I've lost books on holidays - library books, sometimes, so had to fork out for a replacement - but losing a Kindle would come very expensive (though I suppose a Kindle is more insurable than just one book). It does seem like putting all your eggs in one basket, though.

As for classics, those are reprinted in the likes of Gutenberg Project, which are readable on the internet with an ordinary computer. (I note that these are now downloadable on Kindle).

http://www.gutenberg.org

organic cheeseboard

hope you don't mind me intruding over here. what I found most odd about the book was how simplistic the treatment of all the characters was.

finkler's politics were explained fully by "father issues"; treslove's by his insecurity and dissatisfaction with his family. and that's it. whether one is onside with hj's politics or not, surely it's a lot more complex? (HJ has admitted that it's this basic in a JC piece too).

I agree with Sarah over the narrative too - I think it was told in flashback/flashforward to obscure its otherwise lack of complexity, but if you sketch the events in a linear manner a lot of it makes no sense - would treslove really be indulging an amusing grief fetish at the initial dinner, given his prior affair with one of the deceased? am sure hj was trying to make a point there about him not taking things seriously, but it comes off as yet another totally unbelievable thing about him, and about the novel. the more i tihnk about it, the more it fels liek a series of decent ideas for separate novels being shunted together - as Rosie said, there's a decent novel in the genre of 'getting involved with extremists you don't really understand', there's a half-decent Jewish identity novel, there's a decent family novel there too, there's a good comic novel as sarah says, if he could sustain the tone, but he insisted on making it SERIOUS about grief and politics. HJ's insisted on using every single one and that or me is the heart of its failure.

on the kinle - mrs cheeseboard has had a sony reader or a year. it's a nice piece of kit but books on it are prohibitively expensive - hardbacks cost the same as their real-life equivalents. I've repeatedly tried to take this up with journalist chamions of ebooks like robert mccrum and jonathan jones, but they don't seem interested.

the electronic readers are very good or people who have to travel a lot with work, but there's another issue with travel - do you really want to leave it, at upwards of £100, on the beach when you go for a swim?

Junie Matt

You are a fantastic literary critic, Rosie Bell... I can tell from your thoughts on Seven Jewish Children (among other of your lengthy [and some funny] posts) that you read extensively. You put us Americans to shame, my friend!

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